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UK brigadier backs Taliban talks
Britain has about 7,800 troops operating in Afghanistan [AFP]

A decisive military victory in Afghanistan is impossible and the Taliban may have to be part of a long-term solution for the country, a senior British commander in Afghanistan has said.

"We're not going to win this war," Brigadier Mark Carleton-Smith was quoted as saying in a British newspaper on Sunday.

He also reportedly said a deal with the Taliban might be on the table.

"If the Taliban were prepared to sit on the other side of the table and talk about a political settlement, then that's precisely the sort of progress that concludes insurgencies like this,'' Carleton-Smith was quoted in The Sunday Times newspaper as saying.

The inclusive approach appeared to be echoed by General Abdul Rahim Wardak, Afghanistan's defence minister, who said the idea that Afghanistan had to find political solutions to end the fighting had long been endorsed by Hamid Karzai, the president.

"For a total solution we must work on different fronts - political, economic and military," Wardak said on Sunday at a news conference.

"Economically, we must improve the lives of the people, help find them work. Politically, we need to reach a middle ground and have everyone accept the Afghan constitution," he said.

'Destined to fail'

Britain and its Nato allies are engaged in a fierce campaign against Taliban fighters in Afghanistan, following the US invasion of the country in 2001, which toppled the Taliban government.

Carleton-Smith said foreign forces had "taken the sting out of the Taliban for 2008" but that it would be "unrealistic and probably incredible" to think that the multinational forces in Afghanistan could rid the country of armed groups.

"We may well leave with there still being a low but steady ebb of rural insurgency ... I don't think we should expect that when we go, there won't be roaming bands of armed men in this part of the world," he was quoted as saying.

"The American strategy is destined to fail"

Sherard Cowper-Coles, UK ambassador to Kabul

Britain has about 7,800 troops in Afghanistan.

Qari Yusuf Ahmadi, a spokesman for the Taliban, told Al Jazeera that Carleton-Smith's comments showed that the conflict could be ended only by foreign troops leaving Afghanistan.
 
He also reaffirmed that the movement rejected any compromises with the government, such as accepting ministry portfolios or taking control of the country's southern states.

Mullah Abdul Salam Zaeef, the Taliban's former envoy to Pakistan, told Al Jazeera that it is a positive sign that international forces have made this admission.

"This is the reality - Nato forces will not win the war in Afghanistan, and I think it is good they confess to that," he said.

"If they want a solution in Afghanistan, they must talk to all of the Taliban and the Taliban leadership with no conditions. This war is not the choice of the Taliban or the Afghan people, but we are fighting to bring stability to the country." 

Abdul Rahim Wardak, the Afghan defence minister, on Sunday acknowledged that the conflict could not be ended by a military solution alone, saying that the Taliban must be brought to the negotiating table.

"To resolve the conflict, we need to improve the economic situation in the country, eliminate unemployment, along with reaching a peaceful political settlement with Taliban," he said at a news conference in the capital Kabul.

'Western humiliation'

"This is, of course, after Taliban's acceptance to the Afghani constitution and the peaceful rotation of power by democratic means."

The British government has denied it believes the Afghan campaign is hopeless [EPA]

Dan Plesch, an Afghanistan analyst from the School of African and Oriental Studies in London, told Al Jazeera that Western powers involved in Afghanistan could be defeated.

"The Western military powers have to face the serious issue of defeat here, it may well be that the Pashtun-led Taliban movement could defeat international forces," he said.

"We need to consider that [Osama] bin Laden in launching 9/11, he and his compatriots may have anticipated, and indeed invited American intervention, wishing to draw them into their territory and defeat them like they did with the Soviets.

"Nato and US forces may be staring defeat in the face over the course of next few years, and we need to think about how a Western humiliation in Afghanistan would impact on us."

Leaked correspondence

On Saturday, the British government denied a claim that the UK believes the military campaign in Afghanistan is doomed to failure, after a French newspaper reported that London's ambassador to Kabul had said foreign troops were adding to Afghanistan's problems by helping keep in place a failing government in Kabul.

France's weekly Le Canard Enchaine had published what it said was a leaked French diplomatic telegram recounting talks between Sherard Cowper-Coles, the British ambassador to Kabul, and a French official.

The newspaper quoted Cowper-Coles as saying that "the American strategy is destined to fail" and that Afghanistan might best be "governed by an acceptable dictator".

The newspaper, a weekly publication known for its investigative stories, published excerpts of the telegram, including a passage that quoted the British ambassador as criticising both US presidential candidates over pledges to send more troops to Afghanistan.

"It is the American presidential candidates who must be dissuaded from getting further bogged down in Afghanistan," an extract of the telegram published by the newspaper quoted Cowper-Coles as saying.

The newspaper said it had obtained a copy of the two-page telegram, which it reported was sent from Kabul to Paris on September 2.

It said the telegram was written by Jean-Francois Fitou, France's deputy ambassador in Afghanistan, following his meeting with Cowper-Coles.

 Source: Al Jazeera and agencies
Feedback Number of comments : 20
 
Terry
New Zealand (Aotearoa)
06/10/2008
A decisive military victory in Afghanistan is impossible
Finally the turning tide has been admitted. And its only right that the soldiers with the immutable right to be standing on their own sovereign soil should be the victors in this shameful coalition led occupation which time has shown was for nothing more than oil pipeline wetdreams.

Chris
Canada
06/10/2008
UK General urges Taliban inclusion
Finally, an inteligent comment from the UK, I wonder if the US is listening? Winston Churchill once said "It is always better to jaw, jaw, jaw than to war, war, war.

James Livingston
New Zealand (Aotearoa)
06/10/2008
Afghanistan
At last some intelligent views being expressed.

Jasir Sahnayeh
United States
06/10/2008
When will the Arabs and those claimants of Islam have democracy.. and when will Arabs learn how to respect other opinions and stop the personal attacks when confronted by the facts...

Andrew
Australia
06/10/2008
Lets relocate them
The billion's of dollars the coalition of the willing as spent on this futile battle could have been spent on establishing a 'new state' in the region and relocating all persons effected. Didn't it work in Palestine?

Dean
Indonesia
06/10/2008
Western power will loose in Anfganinstan?
THANKS GOD !!!! at last there is someone who understand the situation in Afganistan. I do Hope US Gov will listen to these messages or they should have their ears cleaned for being deaf enough for sometimes.

ahmed
Afghanistan
06/10/2008
This is an obvious conclusion. I have to say that people are starting to acknowledge what most muslims already knew a long way back. The arrogance of Western governments to think that they can invade and plunder muslim lands as they wish is ridiculous. How many innocent muslim lives have been lost, in both Iraq and Afghanistan? They are not the heroes going to spread freedom and democracy at all, rather illegal occupiers, sent to implement a corrupt long term strategy. Learn your lesson!

Peter
United Kingdom
06/10/2008
Western difficulties in Afghanistan
Andrew in Australia - you are being ironic, yes? The battle with the Taliban could go on indefinitely, with neither side 'winning'. But the longer the Western powers are there, the more despised they will become among the Afghans and more dispirited the soldiers will become too.

Rob
United States
07/10/2008
Afghan Talks
How do we keep score in wars like this? Afghanistan is the ultimate looser.

Muhammad
United Kingdom
06/10/2008
Army of Thousands still on the search for One man "Osama"
It's quite strange and amazing how an army of THOUSANDS is still searching a country for 7 years for a man "supposedly" responsible for 9/11. I still feel that the Towers coming down was a controlled demolition to sway the sight of the world, particularly the West, towards the Muslim Lands. If one ponders on this matter and what the root cause was for coalition forces to be there in the first place, then they should start at what caused the War in the Beginning.

zamir ahmed
India
06/10/2008
UK commander backs Taliban talks
American on verge of fall like USSR and their economy is on the oxygene and can collapse any time like bubble. They fought fake and lie agaist East and Greedy on the natural resourses of the east

Spencer
Afghanistan
06/10/2008
A knew outlook is required
I am British, and although I respect the Armed Forces, I have to say that our Foriegn Policy is pathetic, and hypocrital. We dont like it when our country is attacked, and would never accept anyone meddling in our affairs, and shouldnt do it to others. We have been unjust and oppressive, whatever happens to us in return in just deserts Im afraid. In fact I think we need to fight for indepence against Isreal and America as it seems they control much of our affairs.

Bigmel1981
Malaysia
06/10/2008
UK commander backs Taliban talks
This is a smart commander as the war on terror both in IRAQ and here has been lost.

jamil
Afghanistan
07/10/2008
uk commander backs Taliban talks
At last someone more intelligent than Bush and his cronies admitted that this war is not winnable.If Osama had done this highly sophisticated job from a cave, impossible even to a simpleton, then why bomb thousands of innocent children, elderly and women afghanis from the sky? You can only remove darkness with light, not darkness with darkness. Could someone please give Mr. Bush a flashlight?

Selva
India
07/10/2008
UK commander backs Taliban talks
The commander sees the future and what could be amicable. But, without unarming the militant groups the peace is never possible. Foreign troops may be an irritation for the locals but they are there to protect them. Fundamentalists have to stop murders and turn to peace. They should stop preaching hate. If they don't the same hate will have them burned. Enough of wars all those rebels and Talibans should drop their guns and come to the table to deal with real life issues.

Aracanga
Brazil
07/10/2008
Taliban
It is amazing to see that after so many years the so-called Western powersarrived at the big discovery that the Talibans are not so bad guys, and not exactly terrorists. The US and Nato could have found it before, and had not spending so much money and lives in fighting the Taliban. At the end the Taliban is victorious! How?

tamer hosni
Canada
09/10/2008
well this prove that the us war on terror failed! since 2001 they simply resigned any talks with taliban and now they see reality they realise guns and bombs are not the only way to stop violence! grow up yankees or go home!

Benazir
Pakistan
10/10/2008
The recent "discovery" that its better to talk to the taliban is nothing but a clever startegy shift on part of US and UK...taliban were created by US and would always serve as a tool in strengthening US's position and achievement of its goals in the region...ppl plz wake up and dont think US and UK hav changd..its just the clever old fox at play again...it holds a msg for muslims in particular...to see the true face of taliban and al-qaeda!!US will now use them against iran and others!

Lee
Afghanistan
10/10/2008
UK commander backs Taliban talks
“When will the Arabs and those claimants of Islam have democracy..” Who says that Afghans or Iraqis want democracy? It is my belief that for a democratic system to be appreciated the lives of the majority of people living in an undemocratic society must be so miserable that they are prepared to fight and die for democracy. For democracy to be appreciated it has to be earned by people who want it not given to them on a plate, or in certain cases enforced!

Lee
Afghanistan
10/10/2008
Lets relocate them The billion's of dollars the coalition of the willing as spent on this futile battle could have been spent on establishing a 'new state' in the region and relocating all persons effected. Didn't it work in Palestine? Did it work? I think not!!

 
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